Where is the Justice???

Published on May 30, 2005 By Phoenixboi In Blogging

Abu Bakar Bashir a convicted terrorist gets 30 months Jail for masterminding the BAli bombings which killed 202 people including 88 Aussies.

Schapelle Corby gets 20 Years Jail for allegedly smuggling 4 kgs of Marijuana into Bali.

WHERE IS THE JUSTICE??

Comments (Page 3)

drmiler

on Jun 01, 2005

M-13

Last I knew it was Mexican

bakerstreet

on Jun 02, 2005

"What your statement implies is that Indonesia is an anarchistic state and that is simply not true."

I would suggest you look into how much control the government of Indonesia has outside its main population centers. There are large areas that are controlled by militants. There is a huge piracy problem, and I don't mean Napster. Just look at a map of the country. One could make the argument that it is simply impossible to govern given the state it is in now.

The government that they do have is notoriously corrupt, so even where they ARE in control, you still don't know who is in control. I let my yap run too much sometimes, but I am very confident in my opinion of Indonesia.

Phoenixboi

on Jun 02, 2005

But the media has played on your and the general public's emotions so much throughout this trial, I wouldn't be surprised if some still believed her innocent even if the evidence proved otherwise.

But that is just the thing .. for me it has nothing to do with the media. It is what I know from the inside.

but watch how it plays

That is what I am going to do..

Write this down and call me a prophet later. I'd bet cash that within the next 10 years something very ugly will come from Indonesia. I have had a creepy feeling about it since Suharto. It is the world's most populous Islamic nation, and a place where basically no one is in charge.

I agree with you Baker here. But seeing the "outrage" that people are feeling now due to recent happenings I dont think anyone is seeing clearly. That was one of my arguments here.. Abu Bakar Bashir the mastermind of the bali bombings gets only 4 years in jail. People are saying yeah well the people who actually planted the bombs got the death penalty, but the guy who planned it all gets away ranting and raving how Australia is against Allah and moslems. ? Make sense? No not to me it doesnt.

They seem to be protecting their own just like we should be doing here.

Recently 9 people were arrested in Bali all aussies and all had heroine strapped to their bodies. Well I think they are dumb and deserve what they get. That was blatent stupidity on their behalf. But with Schapelle, it is a different story all together.

What your statement implies is that Indonesia is an anarchistic state and that is simply not true.

Hmm.. I think this is not too far from the truth.

dynamaso

on Jun 02, 2005

I'm not trying to be argumentative, Phoenix, but what could you possibly 'know from the inside'? For instance, have a look at the link on Champas latest post, the one pointing to Andrew Bolt's article in the Herald Sun. I believe his recounting of it as much as I believe anyones. My point is for every pro-Schapelle story, there is an anti-Schapelle story.

Baker, I appreciate you have your opinion. I also appreciate how hard it might be to govern all the different islands that make up Indonesia. And like many other nations, there are some problems between the diverse groups of people living there, making for some volatile and, indeed, lawless parts of the land. And as for corruption, well even the most powerful nations in the world have been accused of this in the past. But I don't believe this makes a case for needless fear-mongering and paranoia about Indonesia. And what has being a Muslim nation got to do with it? Remember, there is also a very large Christian population living there as well. In fact, the chief judge of Corby's trial is a Christian.

I appreciate your candidness and that you are confident in your opinions. I too have confidence in mine. I guess the best we can do is watch to see what will happen next.

bakerstreet

on Jun 02, 2005

"And what has being a Muslim nation got to do with it? Remember, there is also a very large Christian population living there as well."

I suspect folks like Abu Bashir probably wouldn't choose a nation, say, like France to try to turn into a Talaban-style state. Indonesia has a lot to offer them, and a large, poverty-ridden Muslim population is a means to and end.

To put it into perspective, the US population is almost 300 million. Indonesia has a population of almost 250 million. Since Jakarta doesn't actually control a lot of Indonesia, extremists really don't have to worry much about it.

They can annex what parts they can, and leave the rest. Such a place holds a lot of manpower and natural resources for them.

Dr Guy

on Jun 02, 2005

M-13

Last I knew it was Mexican

Actually it is MS 13 (Mara Salvatrucha), and mostly El Salvadorians.

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