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Where is the Justice???
Published on May 30, 2005 By
Phoenixboi
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Abu Bakar Bashir a convicted terrorist gets
30 months Jail
for masterminding the BAli bombings which killed 202 people including 88 Aussies.
Schapelle Corby gets
20 Years Jail
for allegedly smuggling 4 kgs of Marijuana into Bali.
WHERE IS THE JUSTICE??
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Phoenixboi
on May 30, 2005
This not only stinks.. but I smell a lot of rats involved!
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Gene Nash
on May 30, 2005
It's B.S. Seriously F-ed up priorities. The sentences should be traded, at the least.
But they have a lot more to fear in retribution from their own Muslim extremists than from the outraged opinions of foreigners.
They're just too stupid to see that no amount of kowtowing will appease the extremists. They're set up for more bloodshed no matter how they handle it.
What a screwed up country that cares more about a bag of possibly planted pot than the lives of 202 people.
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Phoenixboi
on May 30, 2005
What a screwed up country that cares more about a bag of possibly planted pot than the lives of 202 people.
Exactly!! and Im sure Bashir isnt locked up in a shanky prison cell like Schapelle is. Im sure he is being treated very well.
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Furry Canary
on May 30, 2005
I hope you saw Media Watch tonight, PB. If not, seriously suggest you try and catch it at 11:50pm on Wednesday. Liz Jackson offers a very balanced overview of the Corby trial and - perhaps more pertinently - the Australian media coverage of it.
As well as debunking many of the arguments you present on your previous thread on this subject, they cover this supposed outrage too. Abu Bakar Ba'asyir was ACCUSED only, not convicted. Big difference. The three who were CONVICTED of involvement - Amrozi, Sumudra and Mukhlas - each received the death sentence. Is that justice enough for you?
Sorry PB, I'm sure you mean well, but you - and many others, it seems - have been taken for a ride by unscrupulous shock jocks, TV stations practising chequebook journalism, exclusive deals, bankrupt self-publicising entrepreneurs, money-grubbing lawyers and xenophobia-mongering newspapers ... media life as usual, in other words.
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Shovelheat
on May 30, 2005
Lemme let 'cha in on a little secret I've learned from working in a jail for over 11 years. Justice is all about
the money
or
the clout
or
the P.R.
in any given case. It's about how many chips you can put on the table to stay in the game, that's all.
No, this don't surprise me one damn bit...
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Phoenixboi
on May 30, 2005
SO Furry.. it's like Osama ..he didnt actually fly the planes that crashed into the buildings, but he was the mastermind yeah? So he like Bashir is just as guilty as the ones who flew them or planted the bombs.
There is much more to this case than what we are being shown. There is much more depth to the corruption than the australian public are aware of.
Link
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Furry Canary
on May 30, 2005
' SO Furry.. it's like Osama ..he didnt actually fly the planes that crashed into the buildings, but he was the mastermind yeah? So he like Bashir is just as guilty as the ones who flew them or planted the bombs.'
No PB, it's not that at all. But if and when Osama Bin Laden is captured, I still expect him to have to face trial. Abu Bakar Ba'asyir did, and like it or not he was NOT convicted on charges of masterminding the Bali bombings. Schappelle Corby WAS convicted - and in a trial, incidentally, that Alexander Downer (Australian foreign minister) described this morning as being more transparent than it would have been if it had been conducted in Australia!
What you appear to be saying is that Abu Bakar Ba'asyir (and Osama Bin Laden) are so obviously guilty that they don't NEED to be found so in court. And once people start talking like this, any notion of the 'justice' you profess to be so concerned about goes right out of the window.
Bottom line: You've got the facts all wrong, PB - but hey, why let the facts get in the way of an opportunity for flexing your puffed-up nationalistic outrage?
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Phoenixboi
on May 30, 2005
Link
Alleged terror leader Abu Bakar Bashir was sentenced today to two and a half years in prison for criminal conspiracy for the 2002 Bali bombings, which killed 202 people, including 88 Australians
.
they found that he was linked to lead-up to the Bali attack and convicted him under Indonesia's standard criminal code.
At the start of today's verdict hearing, dozens heavily armed officers escorted Bashir into the courtroom where he smiled and told reporters that US President George W Bush was "evil". About 1,000 policemen secured the building in south Jakarta. About 100 of Bashir's supporters were allowed inside and 400 gathered outside the court. Shortly before the verdict was handed down, Bashir said that if he was found guilty it would be a "tyrannical verdict", but he appealed to his followers not to react with violence. Bashir maintained that Bush as an "enemy of Allah" had pressured Indonesia to jail him to stop him campaigning for Islamic law.
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Phoenixboi
on May 30, 2005
No PB, it's not that at all. But if and when Osama Bin Laden is captured, I still expect him to have to face trial.
U dont think Osama was behind the atacks on Sept 11??
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Furry Canary
on May 30, 2005
Abu Bakar Ba'asyir was convicted of criminal conspiracy only .The sentence would have been far greater had the prosecution been able to prove direct involvement in the Bali bombings, but they WEREN'T. Do try to read beyond the simplistic headlines they feed you, Phoenixboi.
In the meantime, the repercussions upon Indonesians within Australia appear to be starting already. Hope you're feeling proud PB - this is YOUR lynch mob.
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Phoenixboi
on May 30, 2005
Hope you're feeling proud PB - this is YOUR lynch mob.
Not only my lynch mob.. it has to do with the anger that most australians are feeling about this injustice
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Furry Canary
on May 30, 2005
'U dont think Osama was behind the atacks on Sept 11??'
What I think - or what anybody else thinks - is immaterial. One of the reasons the law exists is to ensure that no one gets incarcerated merely because somebody else 'thinks' they are guilty. Burden of proof, innocent until proven guilty, ring any bells? This kind of jibe is beneath you.
So, are you saying Osama Bin Laden ISN"T entitled to a fair trial?
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Furry Canary
on May 30, 2005
'it has to do with the anger that most australians are feeling about this injustice'
Not most, just the gullible and the rednecks.
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Phoenixboi
on May 30, 2005
What rock do you have your head under Furry? He has admitted to it!!
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Furry Canary
on May 30, 2005
' What rock do you have your head under Furry? He has admitted to it!!'
Then he will be found guilty, won't he? Either way, you either think he IS entitled to a fair trial or that he ISN'T. Once you start introducing exceptions to this right, as I said before, you can kiss goodbye to any hope of the 'justice' you claim to be so concerned about.
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