I have been listening to Green Day since they were called Sweet Children back in the late 80's. Quite possibly one of the most influential power pop/punk bands since the Ramones. I love this song. It sums up how i feel about whats going on in the US right now. Some of us do not fit into any catagory of citizenship here in the good old USA, and this song sums up how we feel.

Good post Phoenix...As usual!

It sums up how i feel about whats going on in the US right now. Some of us do not fit into any catagory of citizenship here in the good old USA, and this song sums up how we feel.

So it seems like there is alot of people (from what we are seeing on our news) that arent happy with what is happening over there. So what do you think they will do about it? I have a feeling it isnt over yet.

If we're so fucking ignorant and stupid, why oh why are we the worlds only superpower? Why oh why do so many people risk their lives and limbs to come here?

This is something we all need to think about. LW your right.. why is it so?

If we're so fucking ignorant and stupid, why oh why are we the worlds only superpower? Why oh why do so many people risk their lives and limbs to come here?

Little Whip, --> you are the biggest American Idiot sister, most people around the world feel sorrow that the Superpower 'by way of Bully' has endangered the rest of the world, you are the classic american brainwashed idiot.

Why are you the worlds superpower- You systematically control nations by ruling the world bank and forcing your consumerism and waste at the cost of the environment and also to humanity. You bully the world into trade agreements by threat of economic starvation if they do not join forces.

Did you know that America is the worlds most wasteful enmergy consumer?
Do you realise that Americans travelling the world are genuinely shocked to discover the majority of citizens of the world do NOT admire you.


Why do so many people go there. Greed and Ease, US is very easy to get into, and capitalism of America attracts the greedy people. But I think your ignorance would be surprised to review the figures of the percentage of people who want to go to the US, in fact you are probably so brainwashed you would doubt that any other country has people moving there. I have a friend who is a teacher in LA, I told him he was ignorant a few years ago, and boy was he pissed, so I spent a few weeks discussing other nations, he came back and agreed, having never left the borders of the US, he never realised that other great nations exist in the world. Being humble about your knowledge makes you wise, and your opinion worthy, being so staunch is ignorance demonstrated,

you are the classic 'American Idiot'

Whip whip whip.....Put down the big stick for a sec k?

Billy Joe Armstrong has a right to his opinions. Just like you do. The difference is he has a record contract. Green Day has been very active in non-partisan voter registration. They are not your typical rock band looking to cash in on their ideology. In fact if you listen to the song and read the lyrics, there is no partisanship in it. It's more of a social commentary. Believe me, there are some S.F/Oakland East Bay punks out there with more radical music than this. I really think this is more of a personal statement than a political one. Let me quote the song for a sec...

Don't want to be an American Idiot
Don't want a nation under the new media
Can you har the sound of hyteria?
The subliminal mind fuck America

I think they mean how biased the media is nowadays. They don't mention CNN or Fox News for a reason. Because it's a two way street. They BOTH pump out propaganda for both sides.

Maybe im the faggot America
I'm not a part of a redneck agenda
Now everybody do the propaganda
And sing along at the edge of paranoia

Here they show both sides. "Faggot America" refers to the left, "Redneck Agenda" refers to the right. Sounds unbiased to me. I relate to this statement being a moderate and all

Welcome to a new kind of tension
All across the alien nation
Where everything isn't ment to be okay
Television dreams of tomorow
We're not the ones meant to follow
For thats enough to argue

I think this refers to the level of misinformation in the mass media nowadays and how the world is still an ugly place at times and no amount of "positive spin" can hide it. And how some folks who can see what is really going on aren't buying into it.

I think Ed is right on one point and one point only (on top of being an asshole that is) They don't come here because of our political philosophy. They come here for $$$. We are a capitalist free market country. They wanna get in on it and can't because of the policies and political climate in their home lands.

So endeth my class on Green Day 101

Uhm...Whip? those are Phoenix's mis spellings...

those are Phoenix's mis spellings...

nope I cut and pasted from the lyrics site.

Either way...It's still a good song, and a great album!

Green Day is saying what many of us disenfranchised citizens are saying. I'm still depressed about the election. The Neo cons say that God is on their side but is it not the liberal ideal to be on the side of the common man. As our way of life and freedoms dissolve in the next year I'll feel to sad to say I told you so to my republican family... Then what happens when I'm so empty of hope for pur nation in the system of government that no longer helps but hurts, The anger and rage builds. Protest? I like Green day but right now "public Enemy's" FIGHT THE POWER! comes to mind:-||

Id suggest you fight for literacy. And against HUGE PINK FONTS.

Now there's a cause worth fighting for!

Little whip: making the web safe from people who use pink fonts!

Hey Whip - Um, I won't count different states in one country in my list (do you understand all your worldy travels of the US are still the same counrty?), which Means that Mexico is the only country I have not visted on your list.....

Yes to all these places...

West Germany(West?)
France
Holland**
Austria
Italy
England**
Denmark
Sweden
USA
Canada

and these,

Australia**
Belgium
Fiji
Greece
Ireland
Malta**
New Zealand**
Spain
Sinapore
Thailand
Tunisia

I have lived permanently in five of these countries (** defined as more than twelve months without a residence somewhere else) and spend a significant amount of time in the US and Canada with family. I have never felt anti american, I thought this was about american ignorance.. and I still think a lot of your comments demonstate a healthy ignorance. Bully for you for 'experiencing poverty' too. One of my friends felt insulted once, but he changed his mind on thinking about his views. Another friend works in Washington for some government agency(Born in Illinois I think), she spends a lot of time in Australia, and she looks at the US with similar views to me, she can comfortably acknowledge faults in your


I work almost daily on conference phone calls to the West and East coast of the US, and also with Denver (I am an electrical engineer for a phone company) - I have very entertianing discussion with my collegues/counterparts, I have very strong working and personal relationships with those people, (esp my Denver contact) I think there are a majority of Americans that are sensible- esp about energy consumption and waste, so I still dont feel particularly anti american, however I just think you are a classic American Idiot thats all...... Good to be proud, but perhaps its better to not be brainwashed thats all...

Ed

Oh, the point I was making about the people wanting to go there was this.

The US is not the only place people want to go to- as for your heartfelt (no stirring here) reminder of the shit people go through to get to the US, my point was missed, I dont deny the lives of opression people are leaving at a great risk during their voyages etc, my point was that you are not the only place these people want to go. I work with dispaced Philipinos, Muslims from Middle East, Pacific Islanders and the like daily at work. I have also worked with Bosnian refugees in Malta and in England, and I am not unaware of the incredible life stories of these people.

I just feel that your 'Mild Response' was ignorant..... wake up and stop feeling so special

Reply #5 By: Ed - World traveller (Anonymous) - 11/15/2004 7:46:53 AM If we're so fucking ignorant and stupid, why oh why are we the worlds only superpower? Why oh why do so many people risk their lives and limbs to come here? Little Whip, --> you are the biggest American Idiot sister, most people around the world feel sorrow that the Superpower 'by way of Bully' has endangered the rest of the world, you are the classic american brainwashed idiot. Why are you the worlds superpower- You systematically control nations by ruling the world bank and forcing your consumerism and waste at the cost of the environment and also to humanity. You bully the world into trade agreements by threat of economic starvation if they do not join forces.

How typical of the left morons to make attacks against the person istead of addressing the real issue whip brought up "If we're so fucking ignorant and stupid, why oh why are we the worlds only superpower? Why oh why do so many people risk their lives and limbs to come here? "

nototice how this was not answered except with more person attacks. so typical of looser countries and the shitazens opp misspelling but then again I am an american idiot and cannot be exected top spell correctly can i? The one thing some american {liberalleft} has in common with other countries is they have WHINE, misdirecting, deflecting down to a fine art.

Reply By: little_whip - We do more to aid other nations than any other country on this planet.

Support this statement PLEASE.. and dont count acts of agression as 'aid'